Category: philosophy/religion topics
A question for Theists who use religious texts or other sources to prove God exists:
If Atheists ask you to prove that God exists, instead of relying on religious texts or other material that supports your religious beliefs, why don't you prove God exists by just letting God show himself in you and what you do?
OK, even though I an an atheist, I am going to go ahead and do those of faith a favor by calling shenanigans on this post.
Shenanigans!!!
Wouldn't an agnostic ask if god exists? I mean, an atheist is convinced of the fact, an agnostic is straddling the fence. thus, wouldn't this question be more toward agnositics?
Plus, as an atheist, I can tell you that most of those things that people claim is god's work, isn't all that impressive. some of it is just downright annoying, some of it is basic science, and most of it is just pointless. there you go , two cents, get fourty-nine more posters and you'll have a dollar.
ditto to the last poster; I have to add that I'm glad to see another atheist.
Atheists who ask for proof God exists do so to support their argument that God doesn't exist.
Ask the atheist for a proof that God doesn't exist.
If he can't prove god doesn't exist, therefore God must exist right?
Aah, faulty logic, love it.
Again, Shenanigans!
Atheist don't ask for proof of the non existence of God, or gods by asking someone of faith to summon that deity. Sure, one can do so but it is expressing a very childlike understanding of what God is, or supposed to be. This is like someone of faith asking an atheist to prove the non existence of God, and then yelling hurray when the atheist fails to produce physical proof of his or her claim. Either way, neither point can be proven physically.
I'm starting to think that these posts are some sort of joke?
I mean, come on...
These debates do happen between people who believe in God and people who don't.
Much like debates between rap and country music fans.
No matter what side you're on, you lost the minute you opened your mouth, because there's no way to prove or disprove an opinion.
I'm gonna go with the Shenanigans declared on this post, haha.
I agree with Miss Em in this thread.
Atheists don't believe in God because one or more parts of the religion don't make sense to us, not because we can prove there is no God. We choose not to believe, just as believers choose to believe. Like many other debated topics, it is very unlikely that we will ever come to a solid agreement.
but you see, a person isn't going to prove to me that god exists through their own actions.
the only way I will believe that a god exists is if scientific proof is given to me, or if that god shows himself to me as himself.
If a person tried to prove to me that god exists through their own actions, all they will prove to me is that they are perhaps a very kind person, who in my opinion, is misguided.
The same could be said for atheists. I'm not disagreeing with you at all. In fact, I totally agree, but a lot of believers would say the same for us.
well exactly, that's just it, you have they have their faith, whitch we couldn't hope to argue them out of, and we have our beliefs, whitch you can't argue us out of.
If people prove through their actions that God exists, then even if you don't call it being God, some good will have been done and you will have experienced God even though you continue to deny his existence.
I disagree with the last poster. people's actions would simply be showing that they're kind; it has nothing whatsoever to do with god.
I agree with what others have said here, you can't prove or disprove God's existence. It all comes down to faith, and while you may have personally experienced God in some way, that doesn't make you right or wrong, nor does it make an atheist right or wrong if they don't believe you. This is just one of those issues in life that people have to agree to disagree on.
i'm not sure if that was a typo actually, he may have meant good.
but if not, I disagree, it does not prove that god exists. it doesn't even allow atheists to experience god, it just allows us to experience good...
I mean, if atheists could prove without a doubt that there is no god, would all the religious people in the world start being utter bastards because they can?
I don't think that was a typo, as he said people would experience God even though we continue denying his existance.